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[Vic Mackey]

Vic, no offense intended but you're wrong. He may have said that awhile ago but he's done two VERY recent interviews where he said flat out that he could wrestle. He might not be 100% Austin of old but he's not "fucked up neck, can stumble around the ring and use a chair" Austin. The first interview he said he could wrestle but didn't want to, the second he said he'd consider 1 more match but doesn't know if he wants to. Notice he said he doesn't want to be 90% Austin. Do you honestly think Bret was "90% Bret"? He was about 1% Bret and could barely move fast. Austin's not 100%, he's proably not in the best shape of his career (not that he's in bad shape) and is older now, and hasn't wrestled in 7 years. But if his neck was really fucked up and all he could manage was a Bret match, he wouldn't be talking about being "90%".

His neck was a concern in the past but whatever he said then isn't what he's saying now.

He said he could wrestle 1 more match. He never said he could return to the ring full time. BIG difference there. A one shot deal, and the daily grind are two totally different things. Hogan can barely walk to the ring, yet he still got in there in wrestled. Austin would be limited if he wrestled, he never wanted to stop. Why do you think he came back right away and was always on TV, and doing the Raw GM thing? He wanted to be there, but he couldn't wrestle anymore. I think your taking what I said and completley exaggerating it. If Austin climbed back in he wouldn't do anything crazy involving his neck because I'm sure he wants to ensure that he'll be able to walk the rest of his life. Thats all I'm saying. I don't think you understand just how serious a neck injury can be. If he does the wrong thing it could end him up in a wheelchair. I'm sure he can wrestle another match, but even HBK was very cautious when he came back in 2002 making sure his back was going to be able to handle the types of things he wanted to do. Your making a neck injury sound like its a migrane.

[KyleLitke]

Dude, you said:

I think he could do 1 more match the way Bret did 1 more match.

The way Bret did one more match was he stumbled around the ring in a street fight where his family did most of the work and hit McMahon with a chair a bunch of times.

Do I think Austin can come back full time, no way. If you got that from what I said I apologize, I didn't make myself clear. Do I think he can come back and wrestle even one match exactly like he used to going all out? Probably not. But do I think he can put on one more REAL match, not a Bret/McMahon angle match but an actual match against an actual guy hitting actual moves on each other, just being careful not to hit anything that would fuck up his neck? Yeah I do. Will he, different story, but I think he absolutely could. The thing is he doesn't even seem terribly interested in that, because I think he's essentially walked away and is at peace with that. He COULD wrestle one more but I don't think he feels the need to do so.

[Vic Mackey]

Dude, you said:



The way Bret did one more match was he stumbled around the ring in a street fight where his family did most of the work and hit McMahon with a chair a bunch of times.

Do I think Austin can come back full time, no way. If you got that from what I said I apologize, I didn't make myself clear. Do I think he can come back and wrestle even one match exactly like he used to going all out? Probably not. But do I think he can put on one more REAL match, not a Bret/McMahon angle match but an actual match against an actual guy hitting actual moves on each other, just being careful not to hit anything that would fuck up his neck? Yeah I do. Will he, different story, but I think he absolutely could. The thing is he doesn't even seem terribly interested in that, because I think he's essentially walked away and is at peace with that. He COULD wrestle one more but I don't think he feels the need to do so.

Yes, but before that I said Michaels can still handle the daily grind so he would be more tempted to wanna make a comeback whereas Austin has his health to consider. Thats how this whole arguement started, but as usual your so off topic from where we orginally started that you forgot what we were originally arguing about. The point is Austin would be limited, he'd be able to move much better than Bret did, but it wouldn't be the same. I heard what Austin said, but I'm drawing my own conclusion as to why he said it. The fact that he mentioned it shows he's thinking about it and deep down wants to do it. I bet if someone tried to talk him into it they'd be able too. But he doesn't want too cause he's concerned about his health. I don't believe that he just doesn't want too. I think he's made all these comebacks to drink beer and talk because he loves being out there in front of the fans. How could he not, they love him. Its not possible to not miss it considering the career he's had. My best guess is he saw Bret step back in the ring and figured......well if he could do it then I could do it. It seems like a strange time to bring this up, he had never mentioned 1 more match before.

[KyleLitke]

It seems like you get an idea in your head and nothing can change it. You have the idea that Austin's neck is so horrible he can't ever wrestle again unless it's like Bret. Austin says "Oh, I can wrestle, I might not be 100% but I'm 90%". And you still don't believe him because awhile ago he said his neck was bad or something. Once upon a time HBK's back was so bad he was done forever. Then he came back for 8 years and had some of the best years of his entire career. Does that mean Austin can, no, neck injuries are worse than that, but it doesn't mean he can't come back for one more match. Hell, Kurt Angle left WWE because Vince refused to let him wrestle due to his neck injuries. And there he is on TNA wrestling every night. It's probably not smart and hopefully he doesn't make it worse, and Austin's injury may have been worse than Kurt's as well, but I'm giving you an example of a guy with a neck injury capable of wrestling. Which is all I ever said. One more match.

I dunno, I'm rereading this argument and I don't see any point where I said Austin could come back full time. I even mentioned his one match quote a few times. I think you just assumed what my argument was and didn't actually see what I was saying. I was arguing against the idea that Austin CANNOT wrestle again unless it's like Bret.

And I don't think saying we were talking about HBK does you any favors, because I really don't think Shawn comes back full time ever again, or even his half year but wrestling often schedule. Do I think he eventually ends up having another match, probably, but I think he's done as anything resembling a full time wrestler. So frankly, I was under the impression we were talking about Shawn coming back for one more match, so I don't know where you got "Austin coming back as a full time wrestler" from.

[Vic Mackey]

It seems like you get an idea in your head and nothing can change it. You have the idea that Austin's neck is so horrible he can't ever wrestle again unless it's like Bret. Austin says "Oh, I can wrestle, I might not be 100% but I'm 90%". And you still don't believe him because awhile ago he said his neck was bad or something. Once upon a time HBK's back was so bad he was done forever. Then he came back for 8 years and had some of the best years of his entire career. Does that mean Austin can, no, neck injuries are worse than that, but it doesn't mean he can't come back for one more match. Hell, Kurt Angle left WWE because Vince refused to let him wrestle due to his neck injuries. And there he is on TNA wrestling every night. It's probably not smart and hopefully he doesn't make it worse, and Austin's injury may have been worse than Kurt's as well, but I'm giving you an example of a guy with a neck injury capable of wrestling. Which is all I ever said. One more match.

I dunno, I'm rereading this argument and I don't see any point where I said Austin could come back full time. I even mentioned his one match quote a few times. I think you just assumed what my argument was and didn't actually see what I was saying. I was arguing against the idea that Austin CANNOT wrestle again unless it's like Bret.

And I don't think saying we were talking about HBK does you any favors, because I really don't think Shawn comes back full time ever again, or even his half year but wrestling often schedule. Do I think he eventually ends up having another match, probably, but I think he's done as anything resembling a full time wrestler. So frankly, I was under the impression we were talking about Shawn coming back for one more match, so I don't know where you got "Austin coming back as a full time wrestler" from.

Why is it so hard for you to just agree that he'd be limited in the ring and nothing like his old self? Why must you pick apart and dissect every single irrelevant detail about everything? Kurt Angle left cause TNA has a much lighter travel schedule, whoever you got your info from lied to you. Yes, your right that one injury can be worse than another so it makes no sense to try and compare guys if you don't know the severity of their injuries. HBK never knew his back could hold up until he tried it. And while not as severe as neck your back is your core and not something you want to be hurting. You can't do anything with an injured back.

You didn't say it, I was making a point to another poster as to why HBK would be more likely to wanna come back than Austin would. If you walk away on top then you'll always wonder if you can come back and reclaim your throne. I never said anything about Austin coming back as a full time wrestler. You might wanna reread the thread again.