made his debut with the Nationals yesterday. Supposedly, this guy is pretty nasty. Anyone have a scouting report on him? They put highlights of him on sportscenter, but didn't talk about his arsenal.

He throws a fastball, slurve, slow curve, and changeup.

I can't wait to see this guy

He's the second coming down here in the DC Metro area. He shows alot of potential, and it looks like they are going to wait until June to call him up, that way they can hold onto him longer before contract negotiations or something to that degree.

He demanded all that money. I hope he turns into a disaster. He's proven nothing and wanted all that money.

Oh give me a fucking break. The Nationals were willing to give him that money. He didn't ask for anything he couldn't get, because he's got tons of potential. If he was allowed to sign with any team he would have made more without ever throwing a pitch in the majors...Aroldis Chapman did. Cut the "proving stuff" bullshit. Teams take chances on young guys with as much potential as he has because if he works out, even that much is far, far cheaper than he ever would have signed for.

If he wins the Cy Young next year, would you throw a huge fit about how horrible the Nationals are for not giving him 20 million dollars since he'd be worth it? This is how baseball works. In order to make up for the fact that guys with lots of potential could come in, dominate, and not make more than league minimum for years, those guys with lots of potential expect big signing bonuses, and they get them because all the teams are willing to give them out.

Seems like 122 always has this weird grudge against certain players.

I just think he should have been thrilled they were making him a record offer but this guy wanted more.

As for him winning the CY young next year not a chance.

Too many times are guys like him given all this hype and money without proving anything.

I don't blame for taking the money I just thought he had a lot of nerve asking for so much. Nats never low balled him. Their initial offer was a record offer for a draft pick

So what? It was less than they were willing to give. Why should he do them any favors?

And while I don't actually think he'll win the Cy Young, as usual, you didn't bother answering my question (presumably because, as usual, it hurts your argument so you just ignore it). I was trying to make a point. And how exactly do you know he has "zero chance"? He's got the pitching ability. I don't expect it since he'll need to get used to the majors, plus he plays for a mediocre at best team, but neither one of us knows what he'll do next year.

He does and it's sad. I don't even get why. He makes these decisions on certain guys before they do anything, and that's the end of that for the rest of their career. 10 years from now, no matter what Stephen Strasburg has done, he'll be bitching about how he isn't worth anything after every bad start. If the guy wins 5 Cy Young awards, he'll call him a fluke after every start that isn't dominant.

I think he was turned down by the captain of the cheerleading team too much and beaten up by the captain of the football team.

LOL

His agent is Scott Boras. Do you honestly believe he would not let Strasburg get the max of what he was worth?

I'm not sure which side anyone is taking here but my opinion on money and contracts follows...

I don't think young players in general should be awarded anymore than a predetermined cap decided yearly (preferably minimum mlb salary). This goes for minor leaguers (non rehabbing mlb players excluded) all the way up to year 3 veterans. I'm just a firm believer that these players should have to put their time in before crippling their team with impulsively necessary contracts.

This post has been edited by Crow216: Apr 27 2010, 06:42 PM

So what did you do just bend over and assume position when you were negotiating your first salary out of college? Because when you came out of college I can guarantee that you too had proven nothing and still wanted to make more money than you ever had before. So why is baseball and Stephen Strasburg any different? I'd love to know.

There wasn't a lot of negotiating for my 1st full time position out of college. I had already been interning my last semester at college. After graduating I worked full time, but no I didn't take their offer right away. I was interviewing for 2 other positions before eventually taking the offer of the place I was interning at.

However, if they gave me a low ball offer yeah I either would have took it while looking elsewhere or more aggressively pursued other options. I had a ballpark figure of what I wanted and I ended up getting in that range. I was also realistic and didn't demand or expect anything too crazy.

I proved myself when I was a low paid intern working 40 hour weeks while attending college full time and having a GPA over 3 that semester.

Strasburg is different.

It's not like I had no job experience and the job offers me me say $35 to 45k a year and I came back and said I want $150k a year. I mean that would be outrageous for me to ask for that much without proving anything.

Unless your company would have given you a 150,000 salary, then this isn't an accurate example.

I wish lol, but no straight out of college it's highly unlikely one would get 150k a year. In this situation one should try to get closer to 45k than 35k, but don't go crazy and expect $150k.

My point is Strasburg was offered more than any other draft pick had before and he wanted more.

That's like saying that you think you are better than any other player ever drafted.

Ultimately Boras and Strasburg didn't get what they asked for, but they still got more than the Nats originally offered. Good job by them, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it or like the fact that he got that much.

Stephen Stasburg is no different. Last time I checked he was a low paid semi professional athlete interning at SDSU while also being a full time student like you. I can also guarantee he was working much greater than 40 hour weeks on baseball. He and Boras were realistic in that they knew they were going to get the largest contract ever by a draft pick. They too had a ballpark figure and they obviously got it because otherwise he wouldn't have signed. He earned that money no differently than you did. The only difference is he got $15 million and you didn't.

This is just how the business of sports is. You see it every year in the nba and nfl draft .Where the top 5 picks get millions of dollars before even playing a professional game.